Flabby in Worship? Wow.

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You pretty much laid on the guilt, and false grace. I felt it was rather swallow myself. It is the lack of warmth, love and caring from others that is giving so many folks a good reason not to go to church.

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I grew up in a household that you knew you would be going to church each and every Sunday. Although compared to what seems to be popular today. No doubt some would have felt my parents had their roles reversed. My father was a hugely popular Sunday School teacher, and my mother was involved within the governing portions of the church and sang in choir. They were both extremely good at what they did as well. The author also lists the reasons they miss church — including sickness. I felt it was rather swallow myself. People gather together all over this world inside and outside the church walls to do worship together. In some areas of the world — like Egypt right now - Christians must worship in different ways because their church just burned down. It dangerous to take their family outside their homes, because they maybe killed. The picture is man worshipping in Egypt after his church was burned down. Flabby is not the first word that comes to mind. Wow worship 2013 you have those families in which they are dealing with critically ill, or disabled individuals. They worship at home with family, because its impossible at times to get to church. Wow worship 2013 as a family did worship at home as well, and I remember in particular is the. We had other family worship traditions, but the Advent Wreath is something that sticks out on my mind during our family dinnertime. Dinnertime was Worship time in our family. When the year was starting to wind up to summer vacation. The attendance normally dropped, because families were doing vacations and other things. We found creative ways of doing worship during those periods, and we gather together to do just that. Our family would normally go camping. My brother and I got to see all kinds of places when we were growing up. Camping was cheap, and neighbors shared their camping equipment. We still laugh about the one night we had a major rain storm. My father traveled a lot for his job, and during the summer months it was easier for mother to place us in the car to drive to where my father was working. He would be gone for weeks at a time for these trips. His employer put him up at a hotel, and he was given money for food. We shared the room he got for work, and ate up some of his food allowance during these trips. Mother always wow worship 2013 sure it was an educational trip as well. We learned the history of each location we went too. Also during the summertime, my parents would send my brother and I to our relatives. We would do some visiting there, and then the grandparents would take wow worship 2013 the rest of the way to their homes. The reverse would happen when it was time to go home. Times have changed, and so has the family. There are different reasons or circumstances that families miss church. As I mentioned above my parents would have us gather at home — on vacation or not — to do worship. The four of us were a gathering of brothers and sisters. Sure, we were not in the church building that our family dedicated more time to than just Sundays. So, no offense but they seem a bit flabby in their grace and understanding of what this means. After his death, once again a gathering of believers did not take place in a church building. There are all kinds of people in the present day that have no church to go to, or wow worship 2013 to meet in secret. They are able to gather together as brother and sisters in worship as well. The formal and the non formal are both acceptable. One is not more flabby than the other. I find the article has a bit of manipulative spin to it. The best way to respond is not with guilt or with a false grace, but with the reminder of the purpose of worship. This is a distorted view of the purpose of gathering. The author of Hebrews clues us in. Being with your brothers and sisters is where you are able to stir one another up to love and good deeds. The value is not in the specifics of your conversation, but the very act of demonstrating your love for each other. We are the church because of grace. Formal gatherings seem to be counted more heavily in his view than other types of circumstances. I would ask this author to acknowledge that people in his story demonstrate their love for the church, their family, and their dedication to the Lord by not only church attendance part time or not. They spend time on your ministries within the church, and no doubt they also have a form of family worship. It is a checklist for you — be honest. In my childhood our time together was a blessing that God granted us. Our missed church attendance was filled with other things at times, but we still gathered together for worship in other ways. Our dedication to our church was always present, and honored. Most dedicated Christians know what the purpose of worship is. Do you seriously think that Geoff and Christine in your story do not understand this concept. If so, why are they part of your Church board, or ministries that teach children. You pretty much laid on the guilt, and false grace. There is a life of worship outside the church walls, and its been done for centuries. The idea of formal worship being a time of fellowship is very academic wow worship 2013 me, because hardly anyone in my former church would even deign to return my greeting. At the same church, my friend was excommunicated because she separated wow worship 2013 her abusive husband, while he remained a member in good standing. It has been a year since I attended church, wow worship 2013 I am still too traumatized to think of looking for another church. Anonymous 1: I can understand your position. There are plenty of people that don't agree with how certain churches 'run' things, and don't agree on their definition of 'biblical' either. Some places of worship are more friendly than others. Your friend doesn't need a fellowship that you speak of, and its hurtful that they would excommunicate her. In time I pray she sees the favor they did her. Their act says things about 'them', and not her. They can never justified that no matter how hard they try. I do hope she has found a support system to stand by her, and you as well. Anonymous 2: I thought they mentioned when their pastor was out of town they didn't care for the 'guest' preacher. If they see no fruit in the guest preacher. There are other ways of worshiping, and they seem to overlook that. Their presence seems to show they understand the concept of worship, and you aren't able to do this any other way - I guess due to their need for visual attendance. I would love to see where they find that in the bible. Yes, it is rather odd isn't it. Anonymous 1, I've been there, too. Since then, I've even had people not close to me invite me, but knowing that the visit would more likely be painful and stressful instead of restful and upbuilding, I cannot find wow worship 2013 motivation to go. The only thing I'd disagree with is your statement that the writer is a little manipulative. I'd say the writer is laying it on thick--and then trying wow worship 2013 convince us he isn't by telling us to not go to church out of guilt. I conclude he on some level realized he was taking readers on a major guilt trip, so he had to put that denial in there to sound good. Contrast the writer's statement with Jesus' statement: Where 2 or 3 are gathered in my name, there I am in the midst of them. Church is the English translation of the Greek ekklesia, which simply means a gathering together. Jesus said 2-3 gathered together count as a gathering, or church. I think a large part of the problem is that we fail to see the big picture. The church is not a specific group of people that gathers at a particular building. But the real danger with that type of guilt trip is the hidden agenda. Since most modern day church services have only a few people telling others what they claim they heard from God, the real point of going to church is to receive influence--even dictation--from the leaders. As many as 70% of adults have little to no function in their congregations on Sundays other than as ears. Fellowship, ie: deep and genuine one-on-one interaction, that cares about each other, encourages one another and builds one another up is mostly absent, even though fellowship is the real reason for getting together. All of us can worship and praise God on our own. When fellowship is missing, when only a select few are important, that is when people stop going to the corporate meetings. Instead of guilting people to go to church, the writer should have been encouraging fellowship and genuine caring for others. It is the lack of warmth, love and caring from others that is giving so many folks a good reason not to go to church.

We would do some visiting there, and then the grandparents would take us the rest of the way to their homes. As many as 70% of adults have little to no function in their congregations on Sundays other than as ears. Minor signs of wear, scuffing or scratching, but will play almost perfectly. Your friend doesn't need a fellowship that you speak of, and its hurtful that they would excommunicate her. Someone Worth Dying For — Mikeschair 16.